tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28154988.post116671194966602677..comments2024-03-26T01:59:52.206-04:00Comments on Just outside: Brian Olewnickhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08567239067604835372noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28154988.post-1166743254600937282006-12-21T18:20:00.000-05:002006-12-21T18:20:00.000-05:00Now I’m more curious than ever what these images l...Now I’m more curious than ever what these images look like…!<BR/><BR/>S, tigthe improvising guitaristhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07517613086214719180noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28154988.post-1166741870634080632006-12-21T17:57:00.000-05:002006-12-21T17:57:00.000-05:00dunno for sure but I kinda doubt it. I think it wa...dunno for sure but I kinda doubt it. I think it was more about the abstractability (!) of images when transferred to a repeatable, black and white medium, where the patterns are somewhat more formalized, more easily studied than in real-time, in color. <BR/><BR/>There are certain shots, like the leeching away of water in sand, that reminded me a lot of some accretion (or whatever you call the reverse--decretion?) patterns I've seen in CA programs. <BR/><BR/>These aren't anything, really, you may not have seen dozens of times yourself but there's an extra frisson of excitement you can feel from work done in the 20s and 30s when it <I>was</I>, in a sense, being "seen" for the first time.Brian Olewnickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08567239067604835372noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28154988.post-1166731280710867052006-12-21T15:01:00.000-05:002006-12-21T15:01:00.000-05:00I was just wondering if the film makers were inspi...I was just wondering if the film makers were inspired/influenced by non-formalized (either non-artificial, or pre-cybernetic) instances of CA-like processes (e.g. <A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Textile_cone.JPG" REL="nofollow">sea shell patterns</A>).<BR/><BR/>S, tigthe improvising guitaristhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07517613086214719180noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28154988.post-1166717000965046692006-12-21T11:03:00.000-05:002006-12-21T11:03:00.000-05:00Hi, er, tig."anachronistic" only in the sense of l...Hi, er, tig.<BR/><BR/>"anachronistic" only in the sense of looking like something from another time. I could be wrong, but although the idea of cellular automata may have been around for a while (since the 50s? I know Conway did work in the 60s), the <I>image</I> of them, at least for those of us who didn't have access to early computers, wasn't really around for popular consumption until the late 80s, iirc. <BR/><BR/>In any case, some of the images in the Rodakiewicz piece (a lengthy one, btw, about 54 minutes) bear a striking resemblance to the things I used to crank out with various software (CA Lab, among others).Brian Olewnickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08567239067604835372noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28154988.post-1166714649533277962006-12-21T10:24:00.000-05:002006-12-21T10:24:00.000-05:00“...much of it, anachronistically, reminds me of c...“...much of it, anachronistically, reminds me of cellular automata activity programs.”<BR/><BR/>Anachronistic? But if cellular automata is analogous to processes that produce certain patterns in nature (e.g. seashells patterns), then it may be that Von Neumann and other architects of CA were responding to related material as the film makers were. Is that anachronistic? Hmm…. (Just got me thinking about that word.)<BR/><BR/>BTW, it sounds like a fascinating collection of films.<BR/><BR/>S, tigthe improvising guitaristhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07517613086214719180noreply@blogger.com