tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28154988.post6758586092853899386..comments2024-03-26T01:59:52.206-04:00Comments on Just outside: Brian Olewnickhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08567239067604835372noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28154988.post-28963487060422420632007-06-28T09:34:00.000-04:002007-06-28T09:34:00.000-04:00One of these days, I'll likely spring for the 9-Di...One of these days, I'll likely spring for the 9-Disc box. I have 5 or 6 of the Ghost Trance releases and generally enjoy them, though my favorite recent thing of his is (I think?) not quite in that area, Composition 247 with James Fei and Matt Welch. But I'd like very much to hear the box, if only as an end document to about a 10-year period in AB's career.<BR/><BR/>I last saw him solo at the Ethical Culture Foundation maybe four years ago. He was playing well, but only a couple of the more balladic pieces really moved me.Brian Olewnickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08567239067604835372noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28154988.post-57577622821613721102007-06-28T09:21:00.000-04:002007-06-28T09:21:00.000-04:00yeah, there is a breathy sound piece on the AB Lop...yeah, there is a breathy sound piece on the AB Loppem solo box, I think somewhere on disc 2..can't remember...but it's fucking beautiful.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28154988.post-1479702933033438202007-06-27T23:20:00.000-04:002007-06-27T23:20:00.000-04:00"The sidelong "Dedicated to Ann and Peter Allen" (..."The sidelong "Dedicated to Ann and Peter Allen" (don't have my Martinelli discography handy to check the composition numbers)..."<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://www.restructures.net/BraxDisco/braxton_discography.htm#ForAlto" REL="nofollow">Comp. 8D</A><BR/><BR/>"much of it impinges on the ultra-quiet territory explored much, much later... It's not an area he frequented too much later on (to this degree anyway, unless I'm forgetting something)..."<BR/><BR/>I don't have time to search through his solo recordings from the last couple of decades, but I recall AB doing a breathy, key-tapping, non-"blown" piece during a solo concert at Wesleyan in 2005. There may be something in that vein on his new 4-CD "Solo Live at Gasthof Heidelberg", but I haven't listened to the whole thing yet.Jasonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14931409010906077749noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28154988.post-78206597104503142132007-06-27T18:30:00.000-04:002007-06-27T18:30:00.000-04:00Jeez, here I thought Mr/Ms Anonymous found this pl...Jeez, here I thought Mr/Ms Anonymous found this place too depressing to stay around....I do kinda love how people will pick the negative sentence or two out of an utter rave and harp on it, but there ya go.<BR/><BR/>Derek, yeah I like Joe's Tenor a great deal. In fact, given a choice I probably prefer his solo work overall, going back to "Graphics". First time I met him, in '75, he played me a solo soprano take on 'Round Midnight that has stayed with me a <I>long</I> time as a prime example of an enormously creative reinterpretation of a standard. <BR/><BR/>I've seen the Ayler Records disc around and might pick it up one day to, as you say, see how it compares to my memory of the event (though, admittedly, that's so positive I'm a little reluctant to potentially mess with it.)Brian Olewnickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08567239067604835372noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28154988.post-10710307213759470122007-06-27T17:39:00.000-04:002007-06-27T17:39:00.000-04:00there wer folks under 25 in corey wilkes band as w...there wer folks under 25 in corey wilkes band as well as Nicole Mitchells band. the age median in those younger groups seem to span from 23 to about 32.<BR/><BR/> there were also younger folks in the audience. Though perhaps the music being presented is as much out of touch with that generation as are your ridiculous stodgy rants.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28154988.post-55044562635993055272007-06-27T17:33:00.000-04:002007-06-27T17:33:00.000-04:00Brian, curious about your take on McPhee's Tenor, ...Brian, curious about your take on McPhee's <I>Tenor</I>, particularly in relation to your perspective on <I>For Alto</I>.<BR/><BR/>Also, you should pick up the recently released <I>Great Vision Concert</I> by Fred & Harrison on Ayler & see if it stacks up to memory. It's the one we all caught way back when.derekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05239841396931045478noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28154988.post-75771222337236844212007-06-27T14:58:00.000-04:002007-06-27T14:58:00.000-04:00Well, Rowe was 25 in '65...I disagree entirely wit...Well, Rowe was 25 in '65...<BR/><BR/>I disagree entirely with any "dry as dust" aspect of "For Alto", obviously. There are Brax releases that merit that designation ("For 4 Orchestras" comes to mind) but not this one.<BR/><BR/>In any case, get used to it as I have a whole helluva lot of Brax on vinyl I'm looking forward to wading through.Brian Olewnickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08567239067604835372noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28154988.post-67543817119968011432007-06-27T14:08:00.000-04:002007-06-27T14:08:00.000-04:00UGK, a hip-hop duo from Houston, put out their fir...UGK, a hip-hop duo from Houston, put out their first tape at 14 and had three full-lengths out by the time they were 23, including Super Tight and Ridin' Dirty, both of which I'd play 100 times before subjecting myself to another run through the dry-as-dust For Alto. even when I was a massive Braxton-head (50 CDs, saw him maybe 20 times in different contexts), I thought this was overrated.<BR/><BR/>but it's also a silly bar you set up, there aren't many artists in any area in their early twenties who have developed strong creative personalities. Ami Yoshida is the only EAI one who comes to mind quickly, maybe Martin Brandlmayr. anyone I'm missing?Jon Abbeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16554860803665562805noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28154988.post-37479974234162613752007-06-27T11:36:00.000-04:002007-06-27T11:36:00.000-04:00Yeah, there were some youngins at the Fest on Satu...Yeah, there were some youngins at the Fest on Saturday afternoon - Corey Wilkes' entire band is under 30, pretty impressive. <BR/><BR/>I can't think of anyone making a recorded statement of this stature at such a young age.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28154988.post-53752423282627387152007-06-27T10:26:00.000-04:002007-06-27T10:26:00.000-04:00It's not a big deal and you are obviously entitled...It's not a big deal and you are obviously entitled to you feelings, Ollie.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28154988.post-72530984189970924622007-06-27T10:18:00.000-04:002007-06-27T10:18:00.000-04:00Hey, I've generally enjoyed Drake's work for a lon...Hey, I've generally enjoyed Drake's work for a long, long time (think I first heard him on a Pierre Dorge disc from '88 or so). But even you might allow that no one's on the top of their game every night. Here, there were several times when I thought his contributions were unnecessary and that the music would have been better served had he bowed out for a bit. Not sure why that's such a big deal even if other observers disagree.Brian Olewnickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08567239067604835372noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28154988.post-65107516894541170382007-06-27T10:08:00.000-04:002007-06-27T10:08:00.000-04:00"Anyone in their early 20s creating at the same le..."Anyone in their early 20s creating at the same level Braxton was in '68? Or Roscoe in '66?"<BR/><BR/>Look Ollie. I am not going into a level discussion with you. Your comments about Hamid's "insensitive overplaying" with Hrrisson and Fred make me believe that you don't get it anymore. Maybe you have peaked a couple of years ago and are now in a phase to endlessly repeat your mantra.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28154988.post-86653843598756474192007-06-27T09:52:00.000-04:002007-06-27T09:52:00.000-04:00Well, you're at least partially correct. Bisio sta...Well, you're at least partially correct. Bisio started recording, near as I can tell, in 1983 so I'm guessing mid-40s; Ras Moshe is 39. I can't locate age details for Halvorson & Pavone but they appear young; and Wilkes is 28.<BR/><BR/>Those are the "leaders"; I assume many of the others might have been younger. Anyone in their early 20s creating at the same level Braxton was in '68? Or Roscoe in '66?<BR/><BR/>Good lookin' out, Uli!Brian Olewnickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08567239067604835372noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28154988.post-20583245148917973462007-06-27T09:28:00.000-04:002007-06-27T09:28:00.000-04:00"Where to start? For one thing, Braxton is 23 year..."Where to start? For one thing, Braxton is 23 years old here. 23 fucking years old. (Allow me an aside: Were there any 23-year old or younger musicians in evidence last weekend? Not that I saw."<BR/><BR/>To start, you could try a bit harder. The young cats played on Saturday afternoon when you were socializing with your jc buddies.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com