tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28154988.post1225917925872168282..comments2024-03-26T01:59:52.206-04:00Comments on Just outside: Brian Olewnickhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08567239067604835372noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28154988.post-1369283849963724852007-06-26T19:54:00.000-04:002007-06-26T19:54:00.000-04:00James, well I guess you have to be a musician to c...James, well I guess you have to be a musician to comment on the music, eh? Always wondered why that never seems to apply to politics and politicians...<BR/><BR/>I'm well aware of the history of the music, having been a fairly massive listener for some 35 years now. Give me some Ellington, Mingus, Ornette, Roscoe or Cecil (among countless others) and I'm a happy camper. See upcoming post on Braxton's "For Alto".<BR/><BR/>But any music, any art, is capable of stagnation, of becoming more a craft than an art. Many people have no qualms about thinking that's what happened with the Marsalis crew or fusion; perhaps you agree, perhaps not. For someone to suggest that those are not the <I>only</I> areas in which it's happened doesn't strike me as too extreme, but as you say about opinions....<BR/><BR/>Even so, it's interesting that people have harped on the negative comments I made, not the positive ones toward Shipp's set, and portions of the Jenkins tribute, Campbell's band and Anderson/Bankhead/Drake (ah, except I dared criticize Hamid...)Brian Olewnickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08567239067604835372noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28154988.post-84326275492503821952007-06-26T19:30:00.000-04:002007-06-26T19:30:00.000-04:00sorry brian, but your comments are just classic fr...sorry brian, but your comments are just classic from somebody that does not really play this music.<BR/>The whole theme/solo/theme whatever is part of a deep tradition. Improvisors who have dealt with the history of the music they play, of all types use it, move away from it, go back to it, add thier own flavor. It's hard hard hard work. There is absolutley, and never was anything "free" about the music you speak of. Perhaps thats the feeling it gives you, which is great, but most musicians i know are also trying to deal with being composers and they have every right to bury themselves in ideas that came before, so that they can also grow.<BR/> <BR/><BR/>I think your opinions are 100% valid, but you need to have a little compassion here.<BR/><BR/>The sacrifices that a lot of the music makers you saw at the vision festival have made in order to deal with these sounds deserves it.<BR/><BR/>I think the best things serious lsiteners can do is to never go these concerts with "expectations", otherwise I feel you will always be dissapointed. But i guess it is really like they say " opinions are like assholes; everyone has got one"<BR/><BR/>jAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28154988.post-45814839164643304022007-06-26T18:23:00.000-04:002007-06-26T18:23:00.000-04:00James, I assume your post is directed at the Visio...James, I assume your post is directed at the Vision Fest comments? I'm not necessarily disagreeing with you, but if you're going to use the term "free", as those who organize, perform at and attend such festivals surely do, then at the very least we can expect it not to follow theme-solos-theme formats or solo hierarchy, no? You should, as a listener, expect <I>anything</I> to potentially happen, right? I could've missed it, maybe it flew over my head, but I never, <I>ever</I> had that sense this past weekend (with the partial exception of some of Shipp's set).Brian Olewnickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08567239067604835372noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28154988.post-34068526218073752062007-06-26T18:02:00.000-04:002007-06-26T18:02:00.000-04:00"free" is a term that just does not do the musicia..."free" is a term that just does not do the musicians and the music justice; Nor is the term "avantgarde";<BR/> Putting expectations on an artists offering are where the problems began.<BR/><BR/>My brother plays this music and its one thing he talks about hating is how people try to corner these terms on him and his colleagues;<BR/><BR/>Art is art; Categories are really only for consumerism.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28154988.post-91609763567666488572007-06-25T20:06:00.000-04:002007-06-25T20:06:00.000-04:00Nope, it's not there. I was amazed something like ...Nope, it's not there. I was amazed something like the Ambarchi thing was.<BR/><BR/>Netflix is a DVD rental service which claims to carry some 70,000 titles. They do have tons of great stuff (I have some 185 on my queue at the moment). They mail it to you, you mail it back (postpaid) and they send you the next ones in your queue (which you set up on-line and can tinker with at will), all very efficient so far.Brian Olewnickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08567239067604835372noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28154988.post-82738499435817366712007-06-25T18:34:00.000-04:002007-06-25T18:34:00.000-04:00I have From Zero and enjoyed it, haven't tracked a...I have From Zero and enjoyed it, haven't tracked a copy of One11... down yet, but haven't tried that hard to be honest.<BR/><BR/>Not sure how much of a Luigi Nono fan you are Brian, but if you have any interest I'd check out <I>A Trail on the Water</I> by bettina Erhardt if its there.<BR/><BR/>Now, who's going to be nice and tell me what Netflix is?Richard Pinnellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00168522717135806763noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28154988.post-91185627434876759402007-06-25T17:11:00.000-04:002007-06-25T17:11:00.000-04:00I have to admit that while I'm (obviously) a lot m...I have to admit that while I'm (obviously) a lot more tolerant of the music then your average Netflix user those reviews weren't too far off. A dreadful affair that DVD.<BR/><BR/>You've got I think most of the other ones I mentioned - I was particularly pleased to be able to get the <I>Ohm+</I> DVD as I got the first version of that set without it.<BR/><BR/>BTW <I>One11 with 103</I> is fantastic, the film is stunning. There are two versions of <I>103</I> on the set, if you are only going to watch it once don't listen to the new version as it is dry and pretty uninteresting IMO.Robert K__https://www.blogger.com/profile/15732156105233918236noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28154988.post-88562983783312260732007-06-25T15:04:00.000-04:002007-06-25T15:04:00.000-04:00Hi Caleb,Yep, I'd queued that one plus the "One 11...Hi Caleb,<BR/><BR/>Yep, I'd queued that one plus the "One 11 with 103", the Ohm+ disc and something called "Surround Music" that features Lucier.Brian Olewnickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08567239067604835372noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28154988.post-89282674370252243672007-06-25T14:36:00.000-04:002007-06-25T14:36:00.000-04:00Hi Brian,Netflix has the John Cage DVDs released o...Hi Brian,<BR/><BR/>Netflix has the John Cage DVDs released on Mode. I checked out From Zero a while back, but I found the chance operations to be more successful when applied to music than applied to film. Still, interesting stuff.Caleb Deupreehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14013497049609718830noreply@blogger.com